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Wolfy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We do take screenshots of cloud abusing his power but admins still don't do fece so why bother
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
N104!!! wrote:
Oh. But that still does not explain why you want to get off the leaderboard. And also, why do you want to annoy cloud?


Let me take a crack at this...

Cloud has nothing to do with anon583 problem.
Anon583 asked alot of admins and then mods to take his account off the leaderboard.
Why would he want to be off the leaderboard I don't know. Maybe he wants to join wmw club hehehe.

He was asking have you seen them lately he is probley talking about admins and mods since they haven't replyied to his messages. Maybe the anon didn't notice he just missed scottlu/cloud/Nate.


Indigo told me he told everybody his password to annoy the mods but mainlly cloud.


Wolfy wrote:
We do take screenshots of cloud abusing his power but admins still don't do fece so why bother


Well then if you do have screenshots of cloud abusing his powers, PM them to N@TE or Scottlu.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has gone on far too long. How 'bout you all who think Cloud is guilty give him a second chance, and if he abuses his power any time from now to forever, all are obligated to take a screenshot of it and pm it to Nate or Scottlu.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slimjimninja wrote:
This has gone on far too long. How 'bout you all who think Cloud is guilty give him a second chance, and if he abuses his power any time from now to forever, all are obligated to take a screenshot of it and pm it to Nate or Scottlu.


Yes! I completely agree with Slim!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slimjimninja wrote:
This has gone on far too long. How 'bout you all who think Cloud is guilty give him a second chance, and if he abuses his power any time from now to forever, all are obligated to take a screenshot of it and pm it to Nate or Scottlu.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@104 please dont put words into my mouth. I never said that and would have no need to say that, AKA think before you speak kid.

@wondy you almost got the whole story. when i said have you seen them lately i meant the leaderboards...... I have no point on being on them. I play once a week on anon583 and got 4 other accounts into the top 25.

Most people on the top arent worth playing against so its no achievement to have a higher score than them.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From scottlu: how can we resolve these disputed situations? Here is an idea: I can add logging of all chat, and all mod commands executed. Then resolving disputes will be a matter of looking up the day and time in the log. All the information would be there. Looking at the log would be limited to myself and Nate


The above is what works for me. It is much better than screenshots, because:

1) I will have all the information about any situation on the game server.

2) screenshots are cumbersome to send around. With the above, nobody will need to send me screenshots.

Unless anyone has a better solution, I will put this in place this weekend.

Scott

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottlu wrote:


So let me ask: how can we resolve these disputed situations? Here is an idea: I can add logging of all chat, and all mod commands executed. Then resolving disputes will be a matter of looking up the day and time in the log. All the information would be there. Looking at the log would be limited to myself and Nate.

That is one idea. What are your thoughts? Are there other ideas that you have?

Scott


I still can't find a good enough reason why you would do this.

Look at the pumping problem if someone reports to a admin that someone is pumping then the admin is supposed to go look at their game history and subtract points if they are cheating.

The admins don't go back to the person to say They are cheating or not. The person who reports the problem is supposed to trust the person in charge.
(Which I found out it's flawed cause I reported a problem and a few days later I asked nate but he never got the message from the mod.((cloud)))

If that doesn't make since then this should. If I tell Nate or you the time and date of the problem. Both of you arent obligated to get back with me to say who was right and who was worng.
I'm only going by on how I was treated when I reported pumping back in the day their was no telling if the problem was ever looked into.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
scottlu wrote:


So let me ask: how can we resolve these disputed situations? Here is an idea: I can add logging of all chat, and all mod commands executed. Then resolving disputes will be a matter of looking up the day and time in the log. All the information would be there. Looking at the log would be limited to myself and Nate.

That is one idea. What are your thoughts? Are there other ideas that you have?

Scott


I still can't find a good enough reason why you would do this.

Look at the pumping problem if someone reports to a admin that someone is pumping then the admin is supposed to go look at their game history and subtract points if they are cheating.

The admins don't go back to the person to say They are cheating or not. The person who reports the problem is supposed to trust the person in charge.
(Which I found out it's flawed cause I reported a problem and a few days later I asked nate but he never got the message from the mod.((cloud)))

If that doesn't make since then this should. If I tell Nate or you the time and date of the problem. Both of you arent obligated to get back with me to say who was right and who was worng.
I'm only going by on how I was treated when I reported pumping back in the day their was no telling if the problem was ever looked into.


That's a good point and it is true, there is no obligation. However it is better than having no information or inconclusive information, right? At least the information will be available so that something can be done. Right now we don't have enough of that.

Even with the information I may take a side you don't like. However, if there is inappropriate behavior, I will see it and can address it.

Pumping in comparison is a tough problem because it isn't always cut and dry, and takes an enormous amount of work to resolve (admin-ing WI is a lot of work).

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N104
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Btw anon583 I do think before I speak. A person logged in as indigo (may not have been you since you told all your pass) told me that's they gave their pass away to annoy all the mods but mainly cloud. Whether it was you or not (or sombody logged in as you) I will not speak of the matter here any longer.


And I think a chat logger would be a good idea Scott. It would help solve many problems. And you admins could REALLY happens in the chat room when you leave. Lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

N104!!! wrote:


And I think a chat logger would be a good idea Scott. It would help solve many problems. And you admins could REALLY happens in the chat room when you leave. Lol.


You said " and you admins could REALLY happens in the chat room when you leave."

The word "happens" is supposed to be? "Help"

So does that mean people like n104 can report players for miss be having too.

If it's true then that's a nother flaw. What's going to happen to the player getting reported will he be kicked from the game cause a random player reports him?

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N104
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wonderer wrote:
N104!!! wrote:


And I think a chat logger would be a good idea Scott. It would help solve many problems. And you admins could REALLY happens in the chat room when you leave. Lol.


You said " and you admins could REALLY happens in the chat room when you leave."

The word "happens" is supposed to be? "Help"

So does that mean people like n104 can report players for miss be having too.

If it's true then that's a nother flaw. What's going to happen to the player getting reported will he be kicked from the game cause a random player reports him?



what really happens?
Just sit in the chat room when the right players are in main and everybody knows there is no mod and see what happens. Flaws or no flaws, I'm suprized there has been no chat logging system before.... Somthing is needed...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@n104

CUZ THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING READ ALL MY POST BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING DUMB

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfy wrote:
@n104

CUZ THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING READ ALL MY POST BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING DUMB


i still think scott's idea is worth a shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About this chat logging,
U shud remember the exact time and date when u report
some one right?
If scott dont have no time reading his pm,
How could he make time checkin the
chats?(helloo r u ok???? R u still in one piece??)
My suggestion? "if" really cant let go "that precious mod"
I think u shud limit thier powers based on thier personality, way of thinkin
And age. Some are mature and some does not.
But wait, do u really know what ur mods made off?
"i hope so"
To:n104
Most of ur reply are off topic, i strongly suggest
U stay out of here..
Spammer?

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